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Karl1234's avatar

If Jesus's followers expected the imminent end+remaking of the world as per his apocalyptic message of the coming kingdom of god, that doesn't seem to fit with a picture of them spending time studiously memorizing his teachings during his lifetime, as if there would be a need to pass them on to anyone after those apocalyptic world ending events soon occurred - let alone to future generations after he was gone (which they weren't expecting while he was alive and they were following him around).

I can believe they may have heard him say similar things in different places to different crowds and that some of the pithy sayings, aphorisms and parables were memorable enough to be more or less reliably remembered and transmitted orally. But I think it's a bit iffy to say with great confidence exactly which things go all the way back to him and of those that may, how accurately they have been preserved vs. which developed later via oral tradition, which were invented in the wake of his unexpected death, reported resurrection + passage of decades and the necessary mental & theological reinterpretation that followed. Or, which were entirely the literary product of the gospel writers themselves.

The scholarship of Robyn Faith Walsh among others, suggests the latter as playing a significant role.

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Hey John. Prior to Synoptic Gospels was the Marcion's Gospel. The first gospel. Widely used up to 4th century. So much so that according to some scholars if we were transported to 2nd Century, Marcion was winning in terms of followers and influence against other forms of Christianity including the branch which became official belief of the Roman Empire.

Why do you think scholars tend to neglect Marcion despite serious attempts by serious scholars like BeDuhn and Vinzent's reconstructions.

Love to hear your opion. Thanks

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