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David Armstrong's avatar

As I tell my students: cool as it would be, and much as I would like, for x magical item from the ancient world to be real, if there are such things, they are lost, and if someone tells you they have it, they are probably lying. One of the sadder parts of doing ancient history is realizing just how much stuff doesn’t tend to survive from antiquity proper.

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Seth Archer's avatar

Having done some reading on the Shroud of Turin over the past few months there are some intriguing proposed evidences that I have heard me and I wonder what you make of them? Specifically the claims that AB+ blood is present on the Shroud and that pollen and dirt native to Jerusalem were discovered and studied by Dr. Max Frei, also allegedly in areas consistent with the parts of the body that would come into contact with the ground after falling (e.g. soles of feet, knees, and the tip of the nose). A Dr. Gilbert Lavoie also wrote a book on his findings on the Shroud after examining the position of the man on the Shroud and concludes that the man has wounds and blood patterns consistent with what we know about Roman crucifixion. Interestingly, he finds that the image on the Shroud reflects a man in mid-air, which he believes to be the moment of the resurrection. Have you encountered these claims and do you put any weight in them if so?

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Ali's avatar

Some guys in Moscow Idaho recreated the shroud using glass and sunlight.

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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

If the Shroud truly was first century, the quickest way to silence skeptics would be to re-test it under modern standards. Until that happens, the medieval timeline with its matching carbon dates, weave patterns, and cultural context remains the most consistent explanation.

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